now, rand paul's numbers are completely famisched, as my grandmother would have said. on the other side, we've increased taxes. so there's already far more spending. the president is coming to the table saying let's make this deal a more balanced one in the interest of compromise and in the interest of not inflicting a wound on this economy and protecting all the economically vulnerable people you just mentioned and these guys are saying, no, more cults for the wealthy. >> so, again, it's once again way, way, way out 069 mainstr m mainstream. >> you had braught up about how this is something that they had voted for and i had said how they're trying to make it the president's sequester. the american people seem to be clear. americans in congress seem to have a 12% approval rating. americans seem to be clear on who's doing what for the american people. >> especially since the american party has made cutting spending their main mantra. once again, you're restating the republican goal. people would see this as what they always wanted to do. the idea of closing loopholes. t